Saturday, March 30, 2013

Shia Hadiths

This is a very interesting excerpt I came by today regarding  Shia hadiths. Further convinces me that their hadiths are nothing but pure fabrications on the pure Ahl Al Bayt (as):


 "There is another important point that must be discussed here briefly. A considerable number of traditions are to be found, especially in the earliest Shi‘i collection of hadith, Al-Kafi, which describe the Imams as supernatural human beings. What was the origin of these traditions, and to what extent are the Imams themselves responsible for them? These traditions are reported, as indeed are all Shi‘i traditions, on the authority of one of the Imams, in this case from Al-Baqir and Ja‘far. But were these Imams really the authors of such traditions, which describe their supernatural character? The first thing which must be noted in this connection is that while Al-Baqir and Ja‘far themselves lived in Medina, most of their followers lived in Kufa. This fact brings us to a crucial problem. Kufa had long been a centre of ghulat speculations and activities. Whether ‘Abd Allah bin Saba, to whom the history of the ghulat is traced, was a real personality or not, the name as-Saba’iyya is often used to describe the ghulat in Kufa who believed in the supernatural character of Ali. According to the heresiographers, Ibn Saba was the first to preach the doctrine of waqf (refusal to recognise the death of ‘Ali) and the first to condemn the first two caliphs in addition to ‘Uthman." (Jafri, The Origins and Early Development of Shi‘a Islam, p. 300, Ansariyan Publications, Qum)


Even More:

Al-Kashi narrated in his book Al-Rijal on the authority of Ibn Sinan who said:"Abu Abdullah [Al-Sadiq] said:"Verily we the Ahl Al-Bayt are truthful (Sadiqoon),yet we are not left without the liars who lie about us, thus our truthfulness being ruined in front of the people. The Messenger of Allah (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) was the most truthful of the creation yet Musaylamah [false Prophet] used to lie about him. The commander of the Faithful (عليه السلام) was the most truthful after the Messenger of Allah (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم), yet the people used to lie about him and tried to ruin his truthfulness by their slander like the lies of Abdullah Ibn Saba (Allah's curse be upon him). Abu Abdullah Al-Hussein Ibn Ali (عليه السلام) was afflicted with Al-Mukhtar. Abu Abdullah [Al-Sadiq] then mentioned Abu Abdullah Al-Harith Al-Shami and Al-Banan and said:"They used to lie about Ali Ibn Al-Hussein [Al-Sajjad] عليه السلام , then he mentioned Al-Mughayrah Ibn Saeed and Abu Al-Khattab and Muhammar and Bashaar Al-Ash'ari and Hamzah Al-Yazidi and Sa'ib Al-Hindi - i.e. his companions - and said:

"Allah's curse be upon them! We are not left without the liars who lie about us - Allah is sufficient for us and he will let every liar taste the heat of the iron [hellfire]".


[Rijal Al-Kishi, page 257, 258]


Further, 


ويقول شيخ الطائفة الطوسي في تهذيبه: إن أحاديث أصحابنا فيها من الاختلاف والتباين والمنافاة والتضاد حتى لا يكاد يتفق خبر إلا وبإزائه ما يضاده، ولا يسلم حديث إلا وفي مقابلته ما ينافيه حتي جعل مخالفونا ذلك من أعظم الطعون على مذهبنا وتطرقوا بذلك إلى إبطال معتقدنا، إلى أن قال: أنه بسبب ذلك رجع جماعة عن اعتقاد الحق ومنهم أبوالحسين الهاروني العلوي حيث كان يعتقد الحق ويدين بالإمامة فرجع عنها لما إلتبس عليه الأمر في اختلاف الأحاديث وترك المذهب ودان بغيره لما لم يتبين له وجوه المعاني فيها، وهذا يدل على أنه دخل فيه على غير بصيرة واعتقد المذهب من جهة التقليد


And the Shaykh of the sect (Al-Ta’efa/Shiism) says in his Tahtheeb:


And among the Hadiths (narrated) by our companions (Shia scholars/companions of the Imams) are so many disparities, contrast, contravening and contradictions that you will not find a single report that we agree upon which doesn’t have another that contradicts it, and not a single Hadith is safe from another which denies it. These (contradictions) are to such an extent that our opponents (the Muslims/Ahl Al-Sunnah) have used it as the biggest accusation/attack against our school and as a proof for the falsehood of our creed.


(Until he said): ‘… and this is why a number (of Shias) have left the true creed and amongst them are the likes of Abu Al-Hassan Al-Harouni Al-Alawi, who used to be on the true creed, upon the creed of Imamah (Imamate), but he turned away from it when confusion overtook him due to the issue of the contradicting Hadiths. So he left the school (of Shiism) and attached himself to another (school), as he could not grasp the different understanding (of our text) and this is an indication that the did not embraced it (Shiism) without insight, rather based on Taqleed.



Source: Tahtheeb Al-Ahkam 1/8 by sheikh of the sect al Tusi.


Here's an excellent video on the rijal of the 12r Shia:

Just goes to show you where they derive their narrations from.





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